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Καϑάπερ δὲ τὸ σωματικὸν πεπερασμένον εἶναι, οὕτως τὸ ἀσώματον ἄπειρον, ὅ τε γὰρ χρόνος ἄπειρος καὶ τὸ κενόν. Ὥσπερ γὰρ τὸ μηδὲν οὐδέν ἐστι πέρας, οὕτως οὐδὲ τοῦ μηδενός, οἷόν ἐστι τὸ κενόν. Κατὰ γὰρ τὴν αὑτοῦ ὑπό- 1ὸ στασιν ἄπειρόν ἐστι περατοῦται δ' αὖ τοῦτο ἐχπληρούμενον᾽ τοῦ δὲ πληροῦντος ἀρϑέντος οὐκ ἔστιν αὐτοῦ νοῆσαι πέρας (Diels Arii Di- dymi Epit. phys. frgm. 25). 504 Aétius Plae. I 230,1. Οἱ Zroixol.... διαφέρειν κενόν, τόπον, χώραν\" καὶ τὸ μὲν κενὸν εἶναι ἐρημίαν σώματος, τὸν δὲ τόπον τὸ ἐχόμενον 16 ὑπὸ σώματος, τὴν δὲ χώραν τὸ ἐκ μέρους ἐχόμενον, ὥσπερ ἐπὶ τῆς τοῦ οἴνου πιϑάκνης. 505 Sextus adv. math. X 8. καὶ oí Στωϊκοὶ δὲ κενὸν μὲν εἶναί φασι τὸ οἷόντε ὑπὸ ὄντος κατέχεσθαι, μὴ κατεχόμενον δέ, ἤ διάστημα ἔρημον σώματος ἢ διάστημα ἀκαϑεκτούμενον ὑπὸ σώματος, τόπον δὲ τὸν ὑπὸ ὄντος 30 κατεχόμενον καὶ ἐξισαζόμενον τῷ κατέχοντι αὐτόν, νῦν ὃν καλοῦντες τὸ σῶμα, καϑὼς καὶ ἐκ τῆς μεταλήψεως τῶν ὀνομάτων ἐστὶ συμφανές. χώραν δὲ φασιν εἶναι διάστημα κατὰ μέν τι κατεχόμενον ὑπὸ σώματος κατὰ δέ τι ἀκαϑεκτούμενον. Cf. Pyrrh. Hyport. III 124. 25 idem adv. math. X 4. vio, δὲ (scil. Chrysippus cf. 503) χώραν ἔλε- ξαν ὑπάρχειν τὸν τοῦ μείξονος σώματος τόπον, ὡς ταύτῃ διαφέρειν «τοῦ τόπου τὴν χώραν τᾷ ἐκεῖνον μὲν μὴ ἐμφαίνειν μέγεϑος τοῦ ἐμπεριεχομένου σώματος (κἂν γὰρ ἐλάχιστον περιέχῃ σῶμα, οὐδὲν ἧττον τόπος προσαγορεύεται), τὴν δ᾽ ἀξιόλογον ἐμφαίνειν μέγεθος τοῦ ἐν αὐτῇ σώματος. 80 906 Themistius paraphr. ad Arist. Phys. IV 4 p. 268Sp. λείπεται τοίνυν ἡμῖν ὅτι μηδὲ τὸ διάστημα ὃ τόπος ἐστὶν ἀποδεῖξαι. διάστημα ὃὲ τὸ μεταξὺ νοούμενον τῶν περάτων τοῦ περιέχοντος, οἷον τὸ με- | ταξὺ τῆς κοίλης ἐπιφανείας τοῦ κάδου. παλαιὰ μὲν οὖν ἡ δόξα καὶ τοῖς τὸ κενὸν τιϑεμένοις προσήκουσα, ἠκολούϑησεν δὲ ὅμως αὐτῇ 585 καὶ ὃ περὶ Χρύσιππον χορὸς καὶ ᾿Επίκουρος ὕστερον. 607 Simplicius in Aristot. categ. f. 91 Δ΄ ed. Bas. ὁ Ἰάμβλιχος ξητεῖ πρῶτον, πότερον αὐτὰ rà πράγματα ἐν τόπῳ ὄντα ἀφορίζει τὸν τόπον περὶ αὐτὰ ἢ σὺν αὐτοῖς, ἢ ὃ τόπος ἀφορίξει τὰ πράγματα, ὡς ἂν αὐτὸς αὐτὰ συμπεραίνων, καὶ φησὶν ὅτι ..εἰ μέν, ὡς οἵ Στωϊκοὶ λέγουσι, παρυφίσταται 40 1 οὔτε add. Canterus. 9 ἔσται οὔτε τόπος libri, corr. Usener. αἰτίοις et' mox αἴτιον libri, corr. Canterus. 10 δὲ libri, οὐδέ Usener. 28 τὴν χώραν Bk., τὸν τόπον libri.", "source_id": "svf_2", "translation_type": "critical_fragment_carrier_ocr" }, { "language": "en", "text": "FOUNDATIONS OF PHYSICAL DOCTRINE. 163 The whole will be neither void nor place, but something else without a name. “Void” is used analogously to empty vessels, and “place” to full ones. As for “room,” is it that greater thing capable of being occupied by a being and like a larger vessel for a body, or that which contains a larger body? The void is said to be infinite, for what is outside the cosmos is of this kind, whereas place is finite because no body is infinite. Just as the corporeal is finite, so the incorporeal is infinite, for both time and void are infinite. For just as nothing is no boundary, neither is there a boundary of nothing, such as the void. In its own subsistence it is infinite, but it is bounded whenever it is filled. When what fills it has been removed, no boundary of it can be conceived (Diels, Arius Didymus, Epitome of Physics, fragment 25).\n\n504 Aëtius, Placita I 20,1. The Stoics [...] distinguish void, place, and room. Void is the absence of body; place is that which is occupied by body; and room is that which is occupied in part, as in the case of a wine jar.\n\n505 Sextus, Against the Mathematicians X 8. The Stoics say that void is that which is capable of being occupied by a being but is not occupied, or an interval devoid of body, or an interval unoccupied by body. Place is that which is occupied by a being and equal in extent to what occupies it, by “being” here meaning body, as is also evident from the interchange of the terms. Room, they say, is an interval occupied by body in one respect and unoccupied in another. Compare Pyrrhonian Outlines III 124.\n\nThe same author, Against the Mathematicians X 4. Some, namely Chrysippus, compare 503, said that room is the place of a larger body, so that room differs from place in this respect: place does not indicate the size of the body contained within it, for even if it contains a very small body, it is no less called a place, whereas room indicates a considerable size of the body within it.\n\n506 Themistius, Paraphrase of Aristotle’s Physics IV 4, p. 268 Sp. It remains for us to demonstrate that place is not the interval either. By interval is meant what is conceived between the boundaries of the containing thing, such as what lies between the concave surface of a jar. The opinion is ancient and appropriate to those who posit the void; nevertheless, the school of Chrysippus followed it, and Epicurus later.\n\n507 Simplicius, On Aristotle’s Categories, fol. 91D, Basel edition. Iamblichus first asks whether the things themselves, when situated in place, determine the place around them or together with them, or whether place determines the things by delimiting them itself. He says: “If, as the Stoics say, place subsists alongside bodies [...]”\n\n1 Canter added οὔτε. 2 The manuscripts have ἔσται οὔτε τόπος; Usener corrected it. The manuscripts have αἰτίοις and then αἴτιον; Canter corrected them. 10 The manuscripts have δὲ; Usener has οὐδέ. 28 Bk. has τὴν χώραν; the manuscripts have τὸν τόπον.", "translator": "Codex gpt-5.6-sol", "edition": "Prokopton42 non-official AI translation, 2026-09-13", "source_id": "prokopton42-codex-translation:gpt-5.6-sol:corpus-passage-translation-v1", "translation_type": "ai_generated_translation", "official_status": "non_official", "generation_model": "gpt-5.6-sol" }, { "language": "fr", "text": "FONDEMENTS DE LA DOCTRINE PHYSIQUE. 163 Si, de ce qui peut être occupé par un être, une partie est occupée et l’autre non, le tout ne sera ni vide ni lieu, mais quelque autre chose dépourvue de nom. Le vide se dit par analogie avec les récipients vides, le lieu par analogie avec les récipients pleins. Quant à l’espace, est-ce ce qui, plus grand, peut être occupé par un être et ressemble à un récipient plus grand que le corps, ou ce qui contient un corps plus grand ?\n\nLe vide est dit infini, car ce qui se trouve hors du monde est tel ; le lieu, en revanche, est limité, puisqu’aucun corps n’est infini. De même que le corporel est limité, l’incorporel est infini, car le temps et le vide sont infinis. De même que le rien n’est la limite de rien, rien n’est non plus la limite du rien, tel qu’est le vide. Selon sa propre subsistance, il est infini ; mais il est à son tour délimité lorsqu’on le remplit. Une fois retiré ce qui le remplit, on ne peut lui concevoir de limite (Diels, Arius Didyme, Abrégé de physique, fragment 25).\n\n504 Aétius, Opinions, I, 20, 1. Les stoïciens distinguent le vide, le lieu et l’espace. Le vide est l’absence de corps ; le lieu, ce qui est occupé par un corps ; l’espace, ce qui est partiellement occupé, comme dans le cas d’une jarre de vin.\n\n505 Sextus, Contre les mathématiciens, X, 8. Les stoïciens disent que le vide est ce qui peut être occupé par un être sans l’être actuellement, ou une étendue dépourvue de corps, ou encore une étendue qui n’est pas occupée par un corps. Le lieu est ce qui est occupé par un être et rendu égal à ce qui l’occupe, désignant ici par « être » le corps, comme le montre aussi clairement la transposition des noms. Ils disent que l’espace est une étendue qui, sous un certain rapport, est occupée par un corps et, sous un autre, ne l’est pas. Cf. Esquisses pyrrhoniennes, III, 124.\n\nLe même, Contre les mathématiciens, X, 4. Certains, à savoir Chrysippe, cf. 503, ont dit que l’espace est le lieu d’un corps plus grand. L’espace diffère ainsi du lieu : celui-ci n’indique pas la grandeur du corps contenu, car, même s’il contient un corps minuscule, il n’en est pas moins appelé lieu ; l’espace, au contraire, indique une grandeur notable du corps qui s’y trouve.\n\n506 Thémistius, Paraphrase de la Physique d’Aristote, IV, 4, p. 268 Sp. Il nous reste donc à démontrer que le lieu n’est pas non plus l’étendue. Par « étendue », on entend ce qui se trouve entre les limites du contenant, par exemple entre les parois de la surface concave d’un seau. Cette opinion est ancienne et convient à ceux qui posent l’existence du vide. Pourtant, l’école de Chrysippe la suivit aussi, puis Épicure.\n\n507 Simplicius, Sur les Catégories d’Aristote, f. 91A, éd. de Bâle. Jamblique demande d’abord si les choses mêmes qui sont dans un lieu délimitent le lieu autour d’elles ou avec elles, ou si le lieu délimite les choses en les bornant lui-même. Il dit : « Si, comme l’affirment les stoïciens, le lieu subsiste conjointement aux corps... »\n\n1 οὔτε ajouté par Canter. 2 Les manuscrits portent ἔσται οὔτε τόπος ; correction d’Usener. Les manuscrits portent αἰτίοις, puis αἴτιον ; correction de Canter. 10 δὲ, manuscrits ; οὐδέ, Usener. 28 τὴν χώραν, Bekker ; τὸν τόπον, manuscrits.", "translator": "Codex gpt-5.6-sol", "edition": "Prokopton42 non-official AI translation, 2026-09-13", "source_id": "prokopton42-codex-translation:gpt-5.6-sol:corpus-passage-translation-v1", "translation_type": "ai_generated_translation", "official_status": "non_official", "generation_model": "gpt-5.6-sol" } ], "content_checksum": "9eb2d26fa3e3e95e20e50aeddd7789f553ef469ad6cec20919d446648ee49864" }