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Aristotle
Rhetoric Section 8
Section 513 of 882
Canonical reference 2.22.8
Ancient Greek
οὐδὲν δὲ διαφέρει περὶ Ἀθηναίων ἢ Λακεδαιμονίων, ἢ ἀνθρώπου ἢ θεοῦ, τὸ αὐτὸ τοῦτο δρᾶν· καὶ γὰρ συμβουλεύοντα τῷ Ἀχιλλεῖ, καὶ ἐπαινοῦντα καὶ ψέγοντα, καὶ κατηγοροῦντα καὶ ἀπολογούμενον ὑπὲρ αὐτοῦ, τὰ ὑπάρχοντα ἢ δοκοῦντα ὑπάρχειν ληπτέον, ἵνʼ ἐκ τούτων λέγωμεν, ἐπαινοῦντες ἢ ψέγοντες εἴ τι καλὸν ἢ αἰσχρὸν ὑπάρχει, κατηγοροῦντες δʼ ἢ ἀπολογούμενοι εἴ τι δίκαιον ἢ ἄδικον, συμβουλεύοντες δʼ εἴ τι συμφέρον ἢ βλαβερόν.
English
J. H. Freese, 1926
It makes no difference in doing this, whether it is a question of Athenians or Lacedaemonians, of a man or a god. For, when advising Achilles, praising or censuring, accusing or defending him, we must grasp all that really belongs, or appears to belong to him, in order that we may praise or censure in accordance with this, if there is anything noble or disgraceful; defend or accuse, if there is anything just or unjust; advise, if there is anything expedient or harmful.
French AI-generated translation, non-official
Codex gpt-5.6-sol · Non-official working translation · 2026-09-13
Il est indifférent, en procédant ainsi, qu'il soit question des Athéniens ou des Lacédémoniens, d'un homme ou d'un dieu. Car, lorsque nous conseillons Achille, que nous le louons ou le blâmons, l'accusons ou le défendons, nous devons saisir tout ce qui lui appartient réellement ou paraît lui appartenir, afin de le louer ou de le blâmer en conséquence, s'il s'y trouve quelque chose de noble ou de honteux ; de le défendre ou de l'accuser, s'il s'y trouve quelque chose de juste ou d'injuste ; de le conseiller, s'il s'y trouve quelque chose d'avantageux ou de nuisible.
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Anger
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Ether and field
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Fear
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God
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Moral rightness and utility
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Justice
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Reason
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Rhetoric
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Sin
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