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Plutarch
Table Talk Section 1
Section 1 of 260
Canonical reference 1.0.1
Ancient Greek
τὸ μισέω μνάμονα συμπόταν ὦ Σόσσιε Σενεκίων, ἔνιοι πρὸς τοὺς ἐπιστάθμους εἰρῆσθαι λέγουσι, φορτικοὺς ἐπιεικῶς καὶ ἀναγώγους ἐν τῷ πίνειν ὄντας· οἱ γὰρ ἐν Σικελίᾳ Δωριεῖς ὡς ἔοικε τὸν ἐπίσταθμον μνάμονα προσηγόρευον. ἔνιοι δὲ τὴν παροιμίαν οἴονται τοῖς παρὰ πότον λεγομένοις καὶ πραττομένοις ἀμνηστίαν ἐπάγειν διὸ τήν τε λήθην οἱ πάτριοι λόγοι καὶ τὸν νάρθηκα τῷ θεῷ συγκαθιεροῦσιν, ὡς ἢ μηδενὸς δέον μνημονεύειν τῶν ἐν οἴνῳ πλημμεληθέντων ἢ παντελῶς ἐλαφρᾶς καὶ παιδικῆς νουθεσίας δεομένων. ἐπεὶ δὲ καὶ σοὶ δοκεῖ τῶν μὲν ἀτόπων ἡ λήθη τῷ ὄντι σοφὴ κατʼ Εὐριπίδην εἶναι· τὸ δʼ ὅλως ἀμνημονεῖν τῶν ἐν οἴνῳ μὴ μόνον τῷ φιλοποιῷ λεγομένῳ μάχεσθαι τῆς τραπέζης, ἀλλὰ καὶ τῶν φιλοσόφων τοὺς ἐλλογιμωτάτους ἀντιμαρτυροῦντας ἔχειν, Πλάτωνα καὶ Ξενοφῶντα καὶ Ἀριστοτέλην καὶ Σπεύσιππον, Ἐπίκουρόν τε καὶ Πρύτανιν καὶ Ἱερώνυμον καὶ Δίωνα τὸν ἐξ Ἀκαδημείας , ὡς ἄξιόν τινος σπουδῆς πεποιημένους ἔργον ἀναγράψασθαι λόγους παρὰ πότον γενομένους· ᾠήθης τε δεῖν ἡμᾶς τῶν σποράδην πολλάκις ἔν τε Ῥώμῃ μεθʼ ὑμῶν καὶ παρʼ ἡμῖν ἐν τῇ Ἑλλάδι, παρούσης ἅμα τραπέζης καὶ κύλικος, φιλολογηθέντων συναγαγεῖν τἀπιτήδεια · πρὸς τοῦτο γενόμενος τρία μὲν ἢδη σοι πέπομφα τῶν βιβλίων, ἑκάστου δέκα προβλήματα περιέχοντος· πέμψω δὲ καὶ τὰ λοιπὰ ταχέως, ἂν ταῦτα δόξῃ μὴ παντελῶς ἄμουσα μηδʼ ἀπροσδιόνυσʼ εἶναι.
English
Thomas Creech, 1874
Some, my dear Sossius Senecio, imagine that this sentence, μισέω μνάμονα συμπόταω , was principally designed against the stewards of a feast, who are usually troublesome and press liquor too much upon the guests. For the Dorians in Sicily (as I am informed) called the steward μνάμονα , a remembrancer. Others think that this proverb admonisheth the guests to forget every thing that is spoken or done in company; and agreeably to this, the ancients used to consecrate forgetfulness with a ferula to Bacchus, thereby intimating that we should either not remember any irregularity committed in mirth and company, or apply a gentle and childish correction to the faults. But because you are of opinion that to forget absurdities is indeed (as Euripides says) a piece of wisdom, but to deliver over to oblivion all sort of discourse that merry meetings do usually produce is not only repugnant to that endearing quality that most allow to an entertainment, but against the known practice of the greatest philosophers (for Plato, Xenophon, Aristotle, Speusippus, Epicurus, Prytanis, Hieronymus, Dion the Academic, have thought it a worthy and noble employment to deliver down to us those discourses they had at table), and since it is your pleasure that I should gather up the chiefest of those scattered topics which both at Rome and Greece amidst our cups and feasting we have disputed on, in obedience to your commands I have sent three books, each containing ten problems; and the rest shall quickly follow, if these find good acceptance and do not seem altogether foolish and impertinent.
French AI-generated translation, non-official
Codex gpt-5.6-sol · Non-official working translation · 2026-09-13
Certains, mon cher Sossius Sénécion, s’imaginent que cette maxime, μισέω μνάμονα συμπόταω, visait principalement les maîtres de banquet, qui sont d’ordinaire importuns et poussent trop les convives à boire. Car les Doriens de Sicile, à ce que l’on m’a dit, appelaient le maître du banquet μνάμονα, c’est-à-dire « celui qui rappelle ». D’autres pensent que ce proverbe exhorte les convives à oublier tout ce qui se dit ou se fait en compagnie. Conformément à cette idée, les anciens consacraient à Bacchus l’oubli accompagné d’une férule, signifiant par là que nous devons soit ne garder aucun souvenir des écarts commis dans la gaieté et en société, soit n’appliquer aux fautes qu’une correction douce, telle qu’on la donne aux enfants. Mais puisque vous estimez qu’oublier les absurdités est certes, comme le dit Euripide, une marque de sagesse, tandis que livrer à l’oubli toutes les sortes de propos que produisent ordinairement les réunions joyeuses est non seulement contraire à cette qualité affectueuse que la plupart reconnaissent au banquet, mais aussi à la pratique bien connue des plus grands philosophes, car Platon, Xénophon, Aristote, Speusippe, Épicure, Prytanis, Hiéronymus et Dion l’Académicien ont jugé digne et noble de nous transmettre les conversations qu’ils eurent à table, et puisqu’il vous plaît que je rassemble les principaux de ces sujets dispersés dont nous avons débattu, à Rome et en Grèce, au milieu des coupes et des festins, j’ai, pour obéir à vos ordres, envoyé trois livres contenant chacun dix problèmes. Les autres suivront bientôt, si ceux-ci sont bien accueillis et ne paraissent pas tout à fait sots et déplacés.
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