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Posidonius
Fragments on Customs and Wars Carrier unit 101a
Carrier unit 122 of 197
Canonical reference F.101a
Ancient Greek
STRABON XI 1, 5: ἐκ νότου δὲ τῆι ἀπὸ τῆς ἐκβολῆς τοῦ Κύρου μέχρι τῆς Κολχίδος, ὅσον τρισχιλίων οὔσηι σταδίων ἀπὸ θαλάττης ἐπὶ θάλατταν, δι’ Ἀλβανῶν καὶ Ἰβήρων ὥστε ἰσθμοῦ λόγον ἔχειν. οἱ δ’ ἐπὶ τοσοῦτον συναγαγόντες τὸν ἰσθμὸν ἐφ’ ὅσον Κλείταρχος (137 F 13), ἐπίκλυστον φήσας ἐξ ἑκατέρου τοῦ πελάγους, οὐδ’ ἂν λόγου ἀξιοῖντο. Ποσειδώνιος δὲ χιλίων καὶ πεντακοσίων εἴρηκε τὸν ἰσθμόν, ὅσον καὶ τὸν ἀπὸ Πηλουσίου ἰσθμὸν ἐς τὴν Ἐρυθράν· « δοκῶ δ έ » φησί « μὴ πολὺ διαφέρειν μηδὲ τὸν ἀπὸ τῆς Μαιώτιδος εἰς τὸν Ὠκεανό ν. » (6) οὐκ οἶδα δέ, πῶς ἄν τις περὶ τῶν ἀδήλων αὐτῶι πιστεύσειε, μηδὲν εἰκὸς, ἔχοντι εἰπεῖν περὶ αὐτῶν, ὅταν περὶ τῶν φανερῶν οὕτω παραλόγως λέγηι, καὶ ταῦτα φίλος Πομπηίωι γεγονὼς τῶι στρατεύσαντι ἐπὶ τοὺς Ἴβηρας καὶ τοὺς Ἀλβανοὺς μέχρι τῆς ἐφ’ ἑκάτερα θαλάττης, τῆς τε Κασπίας καὶ τῆς Κολχικῆς.
English AI-generated translation, non-official
Codex gpt-5.6-sol · Non-official working translation · 2026-09-15
STRABO XI 1, 5: On the south, by the line from the mouth of the Cyrus to Colchis, which extends about three thousand stades from sea to sea through the lands of the Albanians and Iberians, so that it has the character of an isthmus. Those who have narrowed the isthmus as much as Cleitarchus did, saying that it is flooded from each sea, would not even deserve consideration. Posidonius, however, said that the isthmus was fifteen hundred stades wide, as was the isthmus from Pelusium to the Red Sea. “I think,” he says, “that the isthmus from Lake Maeotis to the Ocean does not differ greatly either.” (6) Yet I do not know how anyone could trust him concerning matters that were obscure to him, when he can say nothing plausible about them, since he speaks so unreasonably about matters that are evident, although he had been a friend of Pompey, who campaigned against the Iberians and Albanians as far as both seas, the Caspian and the Colchian.
French AI-generated translation, non-official
Codex gpt-5.6-sol · Non-official working translation · 2026-09-15
STRABON XI, 1, 5 : Au sud, par la ligne qui va de l’embouchure du Cyrus jusqu’à la Colchide, longue d’environ trois mille stades d’une mer à l’autre, à travers les Albaniens et les Ibères, de sorte qu’elle tient lieu d’isthme. Ceux qui ont réduit cet isthme aux dimensions que lui attribue Clitarque (137 F 13), en affirmant qu’il est submergé par chacune des deux mers, ne mériteraient même pas qu’on tînt compte de leurs propos. Posidonius a déclaré que l’isthme avait mille cinq cents stades, soit autant que l’isthme qui va de Péluse à la mer Rouge. « Je pense, dit-il, que celui qui va de la Méotide à l’Océan n’en diffère pas beaucoup non plus. » (6) Mais je ne sais comment on pourrait lui faire confiance au sujet des choses obscures, alors qu’il n’a rien de vraisemblable à en dire, puisqu’il parle de manière aussi déraisonnable des choses manifestes, et cela bien qu’il ait été l’ami de Pompée, qui fit campagne contre les Ibères et les Albaniens jusqu’aux deux mers, la Caspienne et celle de Colchide.
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