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Sextus Empiricus
Against the Professors, Books I-VI of Against the Learned Section 273
Section 273 of 757
Canonical reference 1.273
Ancient Greek
Hermann Mutschmann and Jürgen Mau, editors · adversus-grc
ὁ δὲ Ἐπίκουρος (rat sent. III) φωρᾶται τὰ κράτιστα τῶν δογμάτων παρὰ ποιητῶν ἀνηρπακώς· τόν τε γὰρ ὅρον τοῦ μεγέθους τῶν ἡδονῶν, ὅτι ἡ παντός ἐστι τοῦ ἀλγοῦντος ὑπεξαίρεσις, ἐξ ἑνὸς στίχου δέδεικται λαβών 〈τοῦ〉 (Α 469) αὐτὰρ ἐπεὶ πόσιος καὶ ἐδητύος ἐξ ἔρον ἕντο· τὸν δὲ θάνατον, ὅτι οὐδέν ἐστι πρὸς ἡμᾶς, Ἐπίχαρμος αὐτῷ προμεμήνυκεν, εἰπὼν (fr. 247 CGF Kaibel. B 11 Diets Vors.) ἀπσθανεῖν ἢ τεθνάναι οὐ μοι διαφέρει. ὡσαύτως δέ καὶ τὰ νεκρὰ τῶν σωμάτων ἀναισθητεῖν παρʼ Ὁμήρου κέκλοφε, γράφοντος (Ω 54) κωυφὴν γὰρ δὴ γαῖαν ἀεικίζει μενεαίνων.
English AI-generated translation, non-official
Codex gpt-5.6-sol · Non-official working translation · 2026-09-11
Epicurus (Principal Doctrines III), meanwhile, is caught having seized the chief of his doctrines from poets. For his definition of the limit of the magnitude of pleasures, that it is the removal of everything painful, has been shown to come from a single verse (Il. 1.469): “But when they had put away their desire for drink and food.” Epicharmus had already indicated to him that death is nothing to us, saying (fr. 247 CGF Kaibel; B 11 Diels), “To be about to die or to be dead makes no difference to me.” Likewise, he stole from Homer the view that dead bodies lack perception, when Homer writes (Il. 24.54), “For in his fury he maltreats insensible earth.”
French AI-generated translation, non-official
Codex gpt-5.6-sol · Non-official working translation · 2026-09-11
Quant à Épicure (Maximes capitales III), on le surprend à avoir ravi aux poètes ses meilleures doctrines. Il a tiré d’un seul vers la définition de la grandeur des plaisirs comme suppression de toute douleur: «Mais lorsqu’ils eurent chassé le désir de boire et de manger» (A 469). Épicharme lui avait annoncé d’avance que la mort n’est rien pour nous en disant (fr. 247 CGF Kaibel; B 11 Diels, Vors.): «Mourir ou être mort ne fait pour moi aucune différence.» De même, il a dérobé à Homère l’idée que les corps morts sont insensibles, lorsque celui-ci écrit (Ω 54): «Car il outrage avec fureur une terre insensible.»
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