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Cicero

Academica Passage 5

Passage 5 of 69

Canonical reference 1.5

Latin

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Vides autem eadem ipse; didicisti enim non posse nos Amafinii aut Rabirii similes esse, qui nulla arte adhibita de rebus ante oculos positis vulgari sermone disputant, nihil definiunt nihil partiuntur nihil apta interrogatione concludunt, nullam denique artem esse nec dicendi nec disserendi putant; nos autem praeceptis dialecticorum et oratorum etiam, quoniam utramque vim virtutem esse nostri putant, sic parentes ut legibus verbis quoque novis cogimur uti, quae docti ut dixi a Graecis petere malent, indocti ne a nobis quidem accipient, ut frustra omnis suscipiatur labor .

English AI-generated translation, non-official

Codex gpt-5.6-sol · Non-official working translation · 2026-09-11

“You yourself see the same difficulty. For you have learned that we cannot be like Amafinius or Rabirius, who employ no systematic art, discuss in ordinary language matters placed before everyone’s eyes, define nothing, make no divisions, draw no conclusions through properly framed questions, and in short think there is no art either of speaking or of reasoning. But since our school regards both capacities as virtues, we obey the rules of dialecticians and orators as though they were laws, and are therefore compelled to use new words as well. The educated, as I said, will prefer to seek these from the Greeks, while the uneducated will not accept them even from us, so that all our labor would be undertaken in vain.”

French AI-generated translation, non-official

Codex gpt-5.6-sol · Non-official working translation · 2026-09-11

« Tu vois toi-même qu’il en va ainsi. Tu as en effet appris que nous ne pouvons ressembler à Amafinius ou à Rabirius, qui, sans recourir à aucune méthode, discutent en langage courant de choses placées sous les yeux, ne définissent rien, ne divisent rien, ne concluent rien par un enchaînement approprié de questions et pensent enfin qu’il n’existe aucun art ni de parler ni de raisonner. Quant à nous, soumis comme à des lois aux préceptes des dialecticiens et aussi des orateurs, puisque les nôtres tiennent chacune de ces deux capacités pour une vertu, nous sommes contraints d’employer également des mots nouveaux. Or les savants, comme je l’ai dit, préféreront les emprunter aux Grecs, tandis que les ignorants ne les accepteront même pas de nous. Ainsi, tout notre travail serait entrepris en vain. »

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