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Cicero

On Divination Passage 108

Passage 241 of 284

Canonical reference 2.108

Latin

perseus-cicero-de_divinatione-lat

Si , inquit, aliquando oculi peccent, tamen, quia recte aliquando viderunt, inest in iis vis videndi; item, si quis semel aliquid in divinatione dispexerit, is, etiam cum peccet, tamen existumandus sit habere vim divinandi. Vide, quaeso, Cratippe noster, quam sint ista similia; nam mihi non videntur. Oculi enim vera cernentes utuntur natura atque sensu, animi, si quando vel vaticinando vel somniando vera viderunt, usi sunt fortuna atque casu; nisi forte concessuros tibi existumas eos, qui somnia pro somniis habent, si quando aliquod somnium verum evaserit, non id fortuito accidisse. Sed demus tibi istas duas sumptiones (ea quae lh/mmata appellant dialectici, sed nos Latine loqui malumus), adsumptio tamen (quam pro/slhyin iidem vocant) non dabitur.

English AI-generated translation, non-official

Codex gpt-5.6-sol · Non-official working translation · 2026-09-11

“If,” he says, “eyes sometimes err, nevertheless, because they have sometimes seen correctly, they possess the power of sight. Likewise, if someone has once discerned something through divination, he should be thought to possess the power of divining even when he errs.” Consider, my dear Cratippus, how similar these cases are, for they do not seem similar to me. Eyes that see the truth employ nature and sensation; minds, if they have ever seen the truth in prophecy or dreams, have employed fortune and chance. Unless perhaps you suppose that those who regard dreams merely as dreams will grant you that, if a dream happens to come true, this did not occur by chance. But let us grant you those two premises, which dialecticians call lemmata, though we prefer to speak Latin. The additional premise, which they call the proslēpsis, will still not be granted.

French AI-generated translation, non-official

Codex gpt-5.6-sol · Non-official working translation · 2026-09-11

«Si, dit-il, les yeux se trompent parfois, la puissance de voir leur appartient néanmoins puisqu’ils ont parfois vu juste; de même, si quelqu’un a une fois discerné quelque chose par divination, il faut penser que, même lorsqu’il se trompe, il possède néanmoins la puissance de deviner.» Vois, je te prie, notre cher Cratippe, combien ces deux cas se ressemblent; pour moi, ils ne se ressemblent pas. Lorsque les yeux voient vrai, ils emploient leur nature et leur sens; si les âmes ont parfois vu vrai par prophétie ou par songe, elles ont bénéficié de la fortune et du hasard. À moins que tu ne penses que ceux qui tiennent les rêves pour des rêves t’accorderont que, lorsqu’un rêve se révèle vrai, cela n’est pas arrivé fortuitement. Mais accordons ces deux prémisses, que les dialecticiens appellent lemmes, quoique nous préférions parler latin; la prémisse additionnelle, qu’ils appellent proslêpsis, ne te sera pourtant pas accordée.

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