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Cicero

Lucullus, Book Two of the Academica Passage 145

Passage 145 of 148

Canonical reference 145

Latin

perseus-cicero-lucullus-lat

At scire negatis quemquam rem ullam nisi sapientem. et hoc quidem Zeno gestu conficiebat. nam cum extensis digitis adversam manum ostenderat, visum inquiebat huius modi est ; dein cum paulum digitos contraxerat, adsensus huius modi ; tum cum plane conpresserat pugnumque fecerat, conprensionem illam esse dicebat, qua ex similitudine etiam nomen ei rei, quod ante non fuerat, κατάλημψιν imposuit; cum autem laevam manum admoverat et ilium pugnum arte vehementerque conpresserat, scientiam talem esse dicebat, cuius compotem nisi sapientem esse neminem. sed qui sapiens sit aut fuerit ne ipsi quidem solent dicere. ita tu nunc Catule lucere nescis, nec tu Hortensi in tua villa nos esse.

English AI-generated translation, non-official

Codex gpt-5.6-sol · Non-official working translation · 2026-09-11

But you deny that anyone except the wise person knows anything. Zeno illustrated this by a gesture. Holding one hand out before him with the fingers extended, he would say, "An impression is like this." Then, contracting his fingers slightly, he would say, "Assent is like this." Next, closing them completely and making a fist, he called that comprehension. From this resemblance he gave the thing the name κατάληψις, which it had not previously possessed. Finally, bringing his left hand over and gripping the fist tightly and forcefully, he said that knowledge was like this and that no one except the wise person possessed it. But even the Stoics do not usually say who is or ever has been wise. Thus you, Catulus, do not now know that it is daylight, nor do you, Hortensius, know that we are in your villa.

French AI-generated translation, non-official

Codex gpt-5.6-sol · Non-official working translation · 2026-09-11

Mais vous niez que quiconque, à l'exception du sage, sache quoi que ce soit. Zénon expliquait cela par un geste. Il montrait sa main ouverte, les doigts étendus : « Voilà, disait-il, la représentation. » Puis il repliait légèrement les doigts : « Voilà l'assentiment. » Ensuite, il les serrait complètement et formait un poing : il disait que c'était la compréhension. C'est de cette image qu'il donna à la chose un nom qui n'existait pas auparavant, κατάλημψις. Enfin, il approchait sa main gauche et serrait fortement et étroitement ce poing : il disait que telle était la science, dont nul autre que le sage n'est maître. Mais les Stoïciens eux-mêmes n'ont pas coutume de dire qui est ou fut sage. Ainsi toi, Catulus, tu ne sais pas qu'il fait maintenant jour ; et toi, Hortensius, tu ne sais pas que nous sommes dans ta villa.

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