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Plutarch
Table Talk Section 1
Section 28 of 260
Canonical reference 1.9.1
Ancient Greek
Θέων ὁ γραμματικός, ἑστιωμένων ἡμῶν παρὰ Μεστρίῳ Φλώρῳ, πρὸς Θεμιστοκλέα τὸν Στωικὸν διηπόρησε, τί δήποτε Χρύσιππος ἐν πολλοῖς τῶν παραλόγων καὶ ἀτόπων ἐπιμνησθείς, οἷόν ἐστι τὸ τάριχος, ἂν ἅλμῃ βρέχηται, γλυκύτερον γίγνεσθαι καὶ τὸ τῶν ἐρίων τοὺς πόκους ἧττον ὑπακούειν τοῖς βίᾳ διασπῶσιν ἢ τοῖς ἀτρέμα διαλύουσι καὶ τὸ νηστεύσαντας ἀργότερον ἐσθίειν ἢ προφαγόντας· οὐδενὸς αὐτῶν αἰτίαν ἀπέδωκεν. ὁ δὲ Θεμιστοκλῆς εἰπὼν, ὅτι ταῦτα Χρύσιππος ἄλλως ἐν παραδείγματος λόγῳ προύθετο, ῥᾳδίως ἡμῶν καὶ ἀλόγως ὑπὸ τοῦ εἰκότος ἁλισκομένων καὶ πάλιν ἀπιστούντων τῷ παρὰ τὸ εἰκός, ἐπιστρέφων σοὶ δʼ ἔφη βέλτιστε, τί πρᾶγμα περὶ τούτων διαπορεῖν; εἰ γὰρ ἡμῖν αἰτίων ζητητικὸς καὶ θεωρητικὸς γέγονας, μὴ μακρὰν οὕτως ἀποσκήνου τῶν ἰδίων, ἀλλʼ εἰπὲ διʼ ἣν αἰτίαν Ὅμηρος ἐν τῷ ποταμῷ πλύνουσαν οὐκ ἐν τῇ θαλάττῃ, καίπερ ἐγγὺς οὔσῃ, τὴν Ναυσικάαν πεποίηκε, καίτοι θερμοτέραν γε καὶ διαφανεστέραν εἰκὸς καὶ ῥυπτικωτέραν εἶναι.
English
Thomas Creech, 1874
THEON the grammarian, when Metrius Florus gave us an entertainment, asked Themistocles the Stoic, why Chrysippus, though he frequently mentioned some strange phenomena in nature (as that salt fish soaked in salt water grows fresher than before, fleeces of wool are more easily separated by a gentle than a quick and violent force, and men that are fasting eat slower than those who took a breakfast), yet never gave any reason for the appearance. And Themistocles replied, that Chrysippus only proposed such things by the by, as instances to correct us, who easily and without any reason assent to what seems likely, and disbelieve every thing that seems unlikely at the first sight. But why, sir, are you concerned at this? For if you are speculative and would enquire into the causes of things, you need not want subjects in your own profession; but pray tell me why Homer makes Nausicaa wash in the river rather than the sea, though it was near, and in all likelihood hotter, clearer, and fitter to wash with than that?
French AI-generated translation, non-official
Codex gpt-5.6-sol · Non-official working translation · 2026-09-13
THÉON le grammairien, lors d’un banquet que nous donnait Métrius Florus, demanda à Thémistocle le Stoïcien pourquoi Chrysippe, bien qu’il mentionnât souvent certains phénomènes naturels étranges, par exemple qu’un poisson salé trempé dans l’eau salée devient plus frais qu’auparavant, que les touffes de laine se séparent plus facilement sous une force douce que sous une force rapide et violente, et que les hommes à jeun mangent plus lentement que ceux qui ont pris leur déjeuner, n’expliquait jamais la cause de ces phénomènes. Thémistocle répondit que Chrysippe ne proposait ces faits qu’en passant, comme des exemples destinés à nous corriger, nous qui, sans aucune raison, donnons aisément notre assentiment à ce qui paraît vraisemblable et refusons de croire tout ce qui semble invraisemblable au premier regard. Mais pourquoi cela vous préoccupe-t-il, monsieur ? Si vous aimez la spéculation et souhaitez rechercher les causes des choses, vous ne devriez pas manquer de sujets dans votre propre profession. Dites-moi donc, je vous prie, pourquoi Homère fait laver Nausicaa dans le fleuve plutôt que dans la mer, alors que celle-ci était proche et, selon toute vraisemblance, plus chaude, plus claire et plus propre au lavage que le fleuve.
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