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Carl Gustav Jung
Collected Papers on Analytical Psychology Section section-0073
Section 73 of 508
Canonical reference section-0073
English
Various; edited by Constance E. Long
These clumsy attempts must be directly paralleled with the unintelligent and clumsy movements of the table or glass, and most probably correspond to the preliminary activity of the motor portion of the presentation; that is to say, a stimulus limited to the motor-centre which has not previously been subordinated to any higher system. Whether the like occurs in persons who talk in their dreams, I do not know. But it has been observed in hypnotised persons. [99]
Since the convenient medium of speech was used as the means of communication, the study of the subconscious personalities was considerably lightened. Their intellectual compass is a relatively mediocre one. Their knowledge is greater than that of the waking patient, including also a few occasional details, such as the birthdays of dead strangers and the like. The source of these is more or less obscure, since the patient does not know whence in the ordinary way she could have procured the knowledge of these facts. These are cases of so-called cryptomnesia, which are too unimportant to deserve more extended notice. The intelligence of the two subconscious persons is very slight; they produce banalities almost exclusively, but their relation to the conscious ego of the patient when in the somnambulic state is interesting. They are invariably aware of everything that takes place during ecstasy and occasionally they render an exact report from minute to minute. [100]
The subconscious persons only know the patient's phantastic changes of thought very superficially; they do not [79] understand these and cannot answer a single question concerning the situation. Their stereotyped reference to Ivenes is: "Ask Ivenes." This observation reveals a dualism in the character of the subconscious personalities difficult to explain; for the grandfather, who gives information by automatic speech, also appears to Ivenes and, according to her account, teaches her about the objects in question. How is it that, when the grandfather speaks through the patient's mouth, he knows nothing of the very things which he himself teaches her in the ecstasies?
French AI-generated translation, non-official
Codex gpt-5.6-sol · Non-official working translation · 2026-09-11
Ces tentatives maladroites doivent être directement mises en parallèle avec les mouvements inintelligents et maladroits de la table ou du verre et correspondent très probablement à l'activité préliminaire de la composante motrice de la représentation, c'est-à-dire à un stimulus limité au centre moteur qui n'a pas encore été subordonné à un système supérieur. J'ignore si un phénomène analogue se produit chez les personnes qui parlent dans leurs rêves. Mais il a été observé chez des personnes hypnotisées. [99]
L'emploi du moyen commode qu'est la parole comme instrument de communication facilita considérablement l'étude des personnalités subconscientes. Leur horizon intellectuel est relativement médiocre. Leurs connaissances sont plus étendues que celles de la patiente éveillée et comprennent aussi quelques détails occasionnels, tels que les dates de naissance d'inconnus décédés et autres choses semblables. Leur source est plus ou moins obscure, puisque la patiente ignore comment elle aurait pu normalement acquérir la connaissance de ces faits. Ce sont des cas de cryptomnésie dite, trop insignifiants pour mériter un examen plus développé. L'intelligence des deux personnes subconscientes est très faible ; elles ne produisent presque exclusivement que des banalités, mais leur rapport avec le moi conscient de la patiente dans l'état somnambulique est intéressant. Elles sont invariablement au courant de tout ce qui se passe pendant l'extase et en donnent parfois un compte rendu exact, minute par minute. [100]
Les personnes subconscientes ne connaissent que très superficiellement les changements fantastiques de la pensée de la patiente ; elles ne les [79] comprennent pas et ne peuvent répondre à une seule question concernant la situation. Leur renvoi stéréotypé à Ivenes est : « Demandez à Ivenes. » Cette observation révèle dans le caractère des personnalités subconscientes un dualisme difficile à expliquer ; car le grand-père, qui fournit des renseignements par la parole automatique, apparaît aussi à Ivenes et, selon le récit de celle-ci, lui enseigne les choses en question. Comment se fait-il que, lorsque le grand-père parle par la bouche de la patiente, il ne sache rien des choses mêmes qu'il lui enseigne pendant les extases ?
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