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Seneca
Consolation to Marcia Chapter 16
Chapter 16 of 26
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Scio quid dicas : " Oblitus es feminam te con- solari, virorum refers exempla." Quis autem dixit naturam maligne cum mulierum ingeniis egisse et virtutes illarum in artum retraxisse ? Par illis, mihi crede, vigor, par ad honesta, libeat, facultas est ; dolorem laboremque ex aequo, si consuevere, patiuntur. In qua istud urbe, di boni, loquimur ? In qua regem Romanis capitibus Lucretia et Brutus deiecerunt : Bruto libertatem debemus, Lucretiae Brutum ; in qua Cloeliam contempto et hoste et flumine ob in- signem audaciam tantum non in viros transcripsimus : equestri insidens statuae in sacra via, celeberrimo loco, Cloelia exprobrat iuvenibus nostris pulvinum escendentibus in ea illos urbe sic ingredi, in qua etiam feminas equo donavimus. Quod si tibi vis exempla referri feminarum, quae suos fortiter desideraverint, non ostiatim quaeram ; ex una tibi familia duas Cor- nelias dabo : primam Scipionis filiam, Gracchorum matrem. Duodecim illa partus totidem funeribus recognovit. Et de ceteris facile est, quos nec editos nec amissos civitas sensit ; Tiberium Gaiumque, quos etiam qui bonos viros negaverit magnos fatebitur, et occisos vidit et insepultos. Consolantibus tamen miseramque dicentibus : " Numquam," inquit, " non felicem me dicam, quae Gracchos peperi." Cornelia Livi Drusi clarissimum iuvenem inlustris in- genii, vadentem per Gracchana vestigia imperfectis tot rogationibus intra penates interemptum suos, amiserat incerto caedis auctore. Tamen et acerbam mortem filii et inultam tam magno animo tulit, quam ipse leges tulerat. Iam cum fortuna in gratiam, Marcia, reverteris, si tela, quae in Scipiones Scipionumque matres ac filias exegit, quibus Caesares petit, ne a te quidem conti- nuit ? Plena et infesta variis casibus vita est, a quibus nulli longa pax, vix indutiae sunt. Quattuor liberos sustuleras, Marcia. Nullum aiunt frustra cadere telum, quod in confertum agmen inmissum est: mirum est tantam turbam non potuisse sine invidia damnove praetervehi ? At hoc iniquior fortuna fuit, quod non tantum eripuit filios, sed elegit. Numquam tamen iniuriam dixeris ex aequo cum potentiore di- videre ; duas tibi reliquit filias et harum nepotes. Et ipsum, quem maxime luges prioris oblita, non ex toto abstulit ; habes ex illo duas filias, si male fers, magna onera, si bene, magna solacia. In hoc te perduc, ut illas cum videris, admonearis filii, non doloris ! Agri- cola eversis arboribus, quas aut ventus radicitus evulsit aut contortus repentino impetu turbo praefregit, subolem ex illis residuam fovet et in amissarum vicem semina statim plantasque disponit ; et momento (nam ut ad damna, ita ad incrementa rapidum veloxque tempus est) adolescunt amissis laetiora. Has nunc Metilii tui filias in eius vicem substitue et vacantem locum exple et unum dolorem geminato solacio leva ! Est quidem haec natura mortalium, ut nihil magis placeat quam quod amissum est ; ne- quiores sumus adversus relicta ereptorum desiderio. Sed si aestimare volueris, quam valde tibi fortuna, etiam cum saeviret, pepercerit, scies te habere plus quam solacia ; respice tot nepotes, duas filias. Dic illud quoque, Marcia : " Moverer, si esset cuique fortuna pro moribus et numquam mala bonos sequerentur ; nunc video exempto discrimine eodem modo malos bonosque iactari."
English
Aubrey Stewart · Minor Dialogues Together with the Dialogue on Clemency (1889)
I know what you will say, “You quote men as examples: you forget that it is a woman that you are trying to console.” Yet who would say that nature has dealt grudgingly with the minds of women, and stunted their virtues? Believe me, they have the same intellectual power as men, and the same capacity for honourable and generous action. If trained to do so, they are just as able to endure sorrow or labour. Ye good gods, do I say this in that very city in which Lucretia and Brutus removed the yoke of kings from the necks of the Romans? We owe liberty to Brutus, but we owe Brutus to Lucretia - in which Cloelia, for the sublime courage with which she scorned both the enemy and the river, has been almost reckoned as a man. The statue of Cloelia, mounted on horseback, in that busiest of thoroughfares, the Sacred Way, continually reproaches the youth of the present day, who never mount anything but a cushioned seat in a carriage, with journeying in such a fashion through that very city in which we have enrolled even women among our knights. If you wish me to point out to you examples of women who have bravely endured the loss of their children, I shall not go far afield to search for them: in one family I can quote two Cornelias, one the daughter of Scipio, and the mother of the Gracchi, who made acknowledgment of the birth of her twelve children by burying them all: nor was it so hard to do this in the case of the others, whose birth and death were alike unknown to the public, but she beheld the murdered and unburied corpses of both Tiberius Gracchus and Gaius Gracchus, whom even those who will not call them good must admit were great men. Yet to those who tried to console her and called her unfortunate, she answered, “I shall never cease to call myself happy, because I am the mother of the Gracchi.” Cornelia, the wife of Livius Drusus, lost by the hands of an unknown assassin a young son of great distinction, who was treading in the footsteps of the Gracchi, and was murdered in his own house just when he had so many bills half way through the process of becoming law: nevertheless she bore the untimely and unavenged death of her son with as lofty a spirit as he had shown in carrying his laws. Will you not, Marcia, forgive fortune because she has not refrained from striking you with the darts with which she launched at the Scipios, and the mothers and daughters of the Scipios, and with which she has attacked the Caesars themselves? Life is full of misfortunes; our path is beset with them: no one can make a long peace, nay, scarcely an armistice with fortune. You, Marcia, have borne four children: now they say that no dart which is hurled into a close column of soldiers can fail to hit one, - ought you then to wonder at not having been able to lead along such a company without exciting the ill-will of Fortune, or suffering loss at her hands? “But,” say you, “Fortune has treated me unfairly, for she not only has bereaved me of my son, but chose my best beloved to deprive me of.” Yet you never can say that you have been wronged, if you divide the stakes equally with an antagonist who is stronger than yourself: Fortune has left you two daughters, and their children: she has not even taken away altogether him who you now mourn for, forgetful of his elder brother: you have two daughters by him, who if you support them ill will prove great burdens, but if well, great comforts to you. You ought to prevail upon yourself, when you see them, to let them remind you of your son, and not of your grief. When a husbandman’s trees have either been torn up, roots and all, by the wind, or broken off short by the force of a hurricane, he takes care of what is left of their stock, straightway plants seeds or cuttings in the place of those which he has lost, and in a moment - for time is as swift in repairing losses as in causing them - more flourishing trees are growing than were there before. Take, then, in the place of your Metilius these his two daughters, and by their twofold consolation lighten your single sorrow. True, human nature is so constituted as to love nothing so much as what it has lost, and our yearning after those who have been taken from us makes us judge unfairly of those who are left to us: nevertheless, if you choose to reckon up how merciful Fortune has been to you even in her anger, you will feel that you have more than enough to console you. Look at all your grandchildren, and your two daughters: and say also, Marcia: - “I should indeed be cast down, if everyone’s fortune followed his deserts, and if no evil ever befel good men: but as it is I perceive that no distinction is made, and that the bad and the good are both harassed alike.”
French
Joseph Baillard · Œuvres complètes de Sénèque le Philosophe (1914)
« Tu oublies, m’allez-vous dire, que c’est une femme que tu veux consoler : tu me cites des hommes pour exemple. » Eh ! qui oserait dire que la nature, en créant la femme, l’ait dotée d’une main avare, et qu’elle ait rétréci pour elle la sphère des vertus ? Sa force morale, croyez-moi, vaut la nôtre ; elle aussi peut, quand elle le veut, s’élever à tout ce qui honore l’homme : l’habitude lui fait supporter aussi bien que nous et le travail et la douleur. Et dans quelle ville, bons dieux ! pensé-je à réhabiliter les femmes ? Dans une ville où la royauté, trop pesante pour des têtes romaines, fut renversée par Lucrèce et Brutus ; Brutus à qui nous devons la liberté, Lucrèce à qui nous devons Brutus ; dans une ville où Clélie, bravant le Tibre et l’ennemi, fut pour son insigne courage placée par nous presque au rang des héros ! Du haut de son coursier d’airain, sur cette voie Sacrée où se presse la foule, elle fait rougir nos jeunes gens, portés sur leurs molles litières, de paraître en cet équipage aux lieux où les femmes même méritaient de nous la statue équestre. Que si vous voulez des exemples de femmes courageuses dans le deuil, sans les chercher de porte en porte, dans une seule maison je vous montrerai les deux Cornélies, la première, fille de Scipion, mère des Gracques. Elle mit au monde douze enfants et vit passer leurs douze funérailles ; elle fit aisément preuve de force à la mort de ceux dont la naissance comme la fin ne furent pas sensibles à la république ; mais Tibérius et C. Gracchus qui, si on leur dénie le titre d’hommes vertueux, furent, on l’avouera, de grands hommes , elle les vit massacrés et privés de sépulture. Eh bien, à ceux qui voulaient la consoler et la plaindre, elle répondait : « Jamais je ne cesserai de me dire heureuse, moi qui ai enfanté les Gracques. » L’autre Cornélie, femme de Livius Drusus, avait perdu son fils, jeune homme de grand renom, d’un génie distingué, qui marchait sur les traces des Gracques, et qui, laissant en instance tant de lois proposées, fut tué au sein de ses pénates, sans qu’on sût par quelle main. Elle supporta toutefois cette mort précoce et impunie avec le même courage que son fils avait mis à proposer ses lois. Vous serez bientôt réconciliée avec la fortune, Marcia, en voyant que les traits dont elle a frappé les Scipions, et les mères et les fils des Scipions, et jusqu’aux Césars, sont les mêmes dont elle ne vous a pas fait grâce. La vie est toute semée d’embûches et d’ennemis de tous genres : avec eux point de longue paix, je dirai presque point de trêve. Vous aviez élevé quatre enfants, Marcia : sur des rangs épais tout coup porte, dit le proverbe. Est-il étrange que tout ce nombre n’ait pu passer sans échec sous l’œil jaloux du destin ? « Quelle injustice ! dites-vous : il a fait plus que me ravir mes fils, il les a choisis. » Non, vous ne pouvez trouver injuste que le plus fort fasse au plus faible part égale : il vous laisse deux filles, et de ces filles deux petits-fils ; et ce fils même, que vous pleurez maintenant jusqu’à ne plus songer au premier, elle ne vous l’a pas enlevé tout entier ; il vous reste de lui deux filles, grande charge si vous faiblissez, grande consolation si vous reprenez courage. Le destin a voulu qu’en les voyant, vous vous rappeliez leur père , et non votre douleur. L’agriculteur, quand ses arbres sont abattus, déracinés par les vents, ou que la trombe en tournoyant les a brisés d’un choc subit, soigne précieusement les rejets qui survivent, à la place du tronc qui n’est plus, il en répartit la semence et les plants nouveaux ; et en un moment (car le temps, si prompt à détruire, ne l’est pas moins à tout relever), ces jeunes sujets grandissent plus beaux que les premiers. Remplacez votre Métilius par ses filles et comblez ainsi le vide de votre maison. Que cette double consolation adoucisse le regret d’un seul. Sans doute il est dans notre nature de ne trouver du charme qu’à ce que nous avons perdu ; le souvenir de ce qu’on n’a plus rend injuste pour ce qui reste. Mais calculez combien le sort, même en vous maltraitant, vous a épargnée, vous verrez qu’il vous est laissé plus que des consolations. Regardez vos nombreux petits-fils, vos deux filles.
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