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Seneca

Moral Letters to Lucilius Section 6

Section 2,087 of 2,141

Canonical reference 122.6

Latin

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Non videntur tibi contra naturam vivere qui ieiuni bibunt, qui vinum recipiunt inanibus venis et ad cibum ebrii transeunt? Atqui frequens hoc adulescentium vitium est, qui vires excolunt, ut in ipso paene balinei limine inter nudos bibant, immo potent et sudorem, quem moverunt potionibus crebris ac ferventibus, subinde destringant. Post prandium aut cenam bibere vulgare est; hoc patres familiae rustici faciunt et verae voluptatis ignari. Merum illud delectat, quod non innatat cibo, quod libere penetrat ad nervos; illa ebrietas iuvat, quae in vacuum venit.

French

Baillard 1914

ne violent-ils pas les lois de la nature, ceux qui boivent à jeun, qui, dans un estomac vide, versent le vin à grands flots, et ne mangent que quand ils sont ivres ? Rien n’est pourtant plus commun que de voir une jeunesse folle de gymnastique boire presque sur le seuil du bain, et boire outre mesure, au milieu d’hommes nus comme elle, et faire à chaque instant essuyer les sueurs provoquées par une liqueur brûlante et des rasades multipliées. Ne boire qu’à la fin des repas est
trop vulgaire : cela va bien à la rusticité de ces pères de famille qui ne se connaissent pas en plaisir. Le vin qu’on savoure est celui qui ne surnage pas sur les aliments, qui pénètre immédiatement jusqu’aux nerfs : une ivresse délicieuse est celle qui envahit des organes libres.

English

Richard M. Gummere · Moral Letters to Lucilius

Do you not believe that men live contrary to Nature who drink fasting, who take wine into empty veins, and pass to their food in a state of intoxication? And yet this is one of youth’s popular vices - to perfect their strength in order to drink on the very threshold of the bath, amid the unclad bathers; nay even to soak in wine and then immediately to rub off the sweat which they have promoted by many a hot glass of liquor! To them, a glass after lunch or one after dinner is bourgeois; it is what the country squires do, who are not connoisseurs in pleasure. This unmixed wine delights them just because there is no food to float in it, because it readily makes its way into their muscles; this boozing pleases them just because the stomach is empty.

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