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Cicero
Orator Passage 11
Passage 11 of 238
Canonical reference 11
Latin
perseus-cicero-orator-lat
ac video hanc primam ingressionem meam non ex oratoriis disputationibus ductam sed e media philosophia repetitam, et eam quidem cum antiquam tum subobscuram aut reprehensionis aliquid aut certe admirationis habituram. Nam aut mirabuntur quid haec pertineant ad ea quae quaerimus - quibus satis faciet res ipsa cognita, ut non sine causa alte repetita videatur - aut reprehendent, quod inusitatas vias indagemus, tritas relinquamus.
English AI-generated translation, non-official
Codex gpt-5.6-sol · Non-official working translation · 2026-09-11
I see that this first approach of mine has been drawn not from discussions of oratory but from the heart of philosophy, and that, being both ancient and rather obscure, it will incur either some criticism or at least surprise. For people will either wonder what these matters have to do with our inquiry, a question that the subject itself, once understood, will answer by showing that I did not go back so far without cause, or they will criticize us for exploring unfamiliar roads and abandoning well-worn ones.
French AI-generated translation, non-official
Codex gpt-5.6-sol · Non-official working translation · 2026-09-11
Je vois que cette première entrée en matière ne vient pas des discussions oratoires, mais remonte au cœur même de la philosophie; ancienne et quelque peu obscure, elle suscitera soit quelque critique, soit du moins de l’étonnement. On s’étonnera de ce que ces considérations ont à voir avec notre recherche. La connaissance de la chose elle-même donnera satisfaction à ces lecteurs, puisqu’ils verront que ce détour par les principes n’était pas sans raison. Ou bien on me reprochera d’explorer des voies inhabituelles en abandonnant les chemins battus.
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