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Cicero
Orator Passage 67
Passage 67 of 238
Canonical reference 67
Latin
perseus-cicero-orator-lat
quicquid est enim quod sub aurium mensuram aliquam cadit , etiam si abest a versu - nam id quidem orationis est vitium - numerus vocatur, qui Graece ῥυθμὸς dicitur. Itaque video visum esse non nullis Platonis et Democriti locutionem, etsi absit a versu, tamen quod incitatius feratur et clarissimis verborum luminibus utatur, potius poema putandum quam comicorum poetarum; apud quos, nisi quod versiculi sunt, nihil est aliud cotidiani dissimile sermonis. Nec tamen id est poetae maximum, etsi est eo laudabilior quod virtutes oratoris persequitur, cum versu sit astrictior.
English AI-generated translation, non-official
Codex gpt-5.6-sol · Non-official working translation · 2026-09-11
Whatever falls under some measure of the ears, even if it is not verse, for verse is indeed a fault in prose, is called rhythm, or ῥυθμός in Greek. Thus I see that some have thought the language of Plato and Democritus, although it is not verse, should nevertheless be called poetry rather than the work of the comic poets, because it moves with greater impetus and employs the most brilliant ornaments of language. In the comic poets, apart from the fact that their lines are verse, nothing differs from everyday conversation. Yet verse is not the poet's highest quality, although a poet is more praiseworthy when he pursues the virtues of an orator despite being more tightly constrained by meter.
French AI-generated translation, non-official
Codex gpt-5.6-sol · Non-official working translation · 2026-09-11
Tout ce qui tombe sous une certaine mesure de l’oreille, même sans constituer un vers, car le vers serait un défaut dans la prose, est appelé nombre, ῥυθμός en grec. Je vois donc que certains ont estimé que le langage de Platon et de Démocrite, bien que dépourvu de vers, devait être tenu pour un poème plutôt que celui des poètes comiques, parce que son mouvement est plus animé et qu’il emploie les figures verbales les plus éclatantes. Chez les comiques, hors la forme des petits vers, rien ne diffère du langage quotidien. Ce n’est pourtant pas là la qualité suprême du poète, bien qu’il mérite davantage de louanges lorsqu’il recherche les vertus de l’orateur tout en étant plus étroitement lié par le vers.
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